Podcast
Apocalyptic Optimist: This Meteorologist was Fired for Communicating Climate
When meteorologist Chris Gloninger linked extreme weather to climate change, he didn’t expect death threats—or orders to censor his science. Choosing integrity over the camera, Chris walked away from a 17-year television career. In this episode of The Apocalyptic Optimist, host Dr. Dana Fisher explores Chris’s journey from a silenced newsroom to the front lines […]
Apocalyptic Optimist: The Most Overlooked Climate Solution Isn’t Technological
In the latest episode of The Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast, best-selling climate writer and strategist, Dr. Katharine Wilkinson, joins host Dana R. Fisher to unpack a critical, yet largely ignored, crisis in our advocacy networks: mass burnout and a loss of talent. Listen to the conversation and join us as we navigate the shift from climate […]
Apocalyptic Optimist: How to Break Through Big Oil’s Disinformation
Outarguing climate deniers with numbers and facts won’t work. Exposing the corporate puppet masters will. In the latest episode of The Apocalyptic Optimist, Harvard historian and legendary myth-buster Naomi Oreskes joins host Dana R. Fisher to discuss how we shatter corporate climate propaganda. The path forward does not live in arguing facts with bad-faith actors. […]
Apocalyptic Optimist: Why the System Wants You Doomscrolling (And How to Take Back Your Power)
Political power isn’t what you think…The algorithms thrive on your anger, keeping you stuck in a cycle of doomscrolling, posting, and feeling utterly powerless. Comedian, writer, and labor activist Adam Conover (creator of Adam Ruins Everything and The G Word) knows we’ve been looking at political change all wrong. For more optimistic empowerment and stories, […]
Apocalyptic Optimist: Why Solidarity Is So Hard — and How We Build It Anyway
In this episode of the Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast, Dana talks with Dr. Rashawn Ray about the realities of building solidarity in a deeply divided moment. From his work with communities-of-color and police departments to learning from the Black Lives Matter movement, Dr. Ray breaks down what works, what doesn’t, and how people can show up as […]
Apocalyptic Optimist: Learning from the Free America Walkout
In the inaugural episode of the Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher talks with Rachel O’Leary Carmona and Tamika Middleton from the Women’s March about what we can learn from the Free America Walkout. You can watch all of the episodes here or access them via our YouTube Channel, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify.
COPOut Episode 5: Early PostMortem on COP30
In our fifth episode of the COPOut Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher talks with two amazing climate communicators to unpack the significance of the outcome of the COP30 round of the climate negotiations. Tune in to hear from Amy Westervelt from Drilled Media and Katharine Hayhoe from Texas Tech University and the Nature Conservancy as […]
COPOut Episode 4: On Measurement and Attribution
In our fourth episode of the COPOut Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher talks with guest experts who help us understand where we are in measuring carbon and attributing the effects that climate change is having on our world. Tune in to hear from Friederike Otto from Imperial College London & the World Weather Attribution […]
COPOut Episode 3: The Future of Carbon Governance
In our third episode of The COPOut Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher talks with guest experts who dig deeper into the problems facing the climate regime and what we should realistically expect from COP30. Tune in to hear from Pamela McElwee from Rutgers University and Lauren Gifford from Colorado State University as they discuss the […]
COPOut Episode 2: (Mal)Adaptation and Climate Shocks
In our second episode of the COPOut Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher talks with guest experts about the ways that climate shocks and (mal)adaptation are increasing vulnerabilities and inequalities across and within countries. Tune in to hear from Lisa Schipper from the University of Bonn and Rod Schoonover from Ecological Futures Group as they discuss how […]
COPOut Episode 1: Platforming Activism
In the inaugural episode of the COPOut Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher talks with climate leaders about how to platform activism and empower civil society in the struggle to address the climate crisis. Tune in to hear from Ingmar Rentzhog from We Don’t Have Time, Jamie Minden from This Is Zero Hour, and Magnolia Mead […]
CECE Launches the COP-Out Podcast for Apocalyptically Optimistic Climate Conversations
During each episode, CECE Director Dana R. Fisher will host a panel of guest experts who will share their unique perspectives on the state of climate action, the path towards more effective climate solutions, and the role that the international regime—including the annual UN sponsored Conferences of the Parties (COPs)—can and should play in getting […]