CECE Launches the COP-Out Podcast for Apocalyptically Optimistic Climate Conversations

During each episode, CECE Director Dana R. Fisher will host a panel of guest experts who will share their unique perspectives on the state of climate action, the path towards more effective climate solutions, and the role that the international regime—including the annual UN sponsored Conferences of the Parties (COPs)—can and should play in getting us where we need to go.
The first episode goes live on Sunday November 9th, 2025 at 3pm. You can watch the episode directly here, or access it via our YouTube Channel or on Apple Podcasts. Guaranteed to be as effective as #COP30 (without the carbon)!
EPISODES and GUESTS:
Episode 1: Platforming Activism with Magnolia Mead; Jamie Minden, This is Zero Hour; and Ingmar Rentzhog, We Don’t Have Time
Episode 2: (Mal)Adaptation and Climate Shocks with Lisa Schipper, University of Bonn and Rod Schoonover, Ecological Futures Group
Episode 3: The Future of Carbon Governance with Lauren Gifford, Colorado State University and Pam McElwee, Rutgers University
Episode 4: On Measurement and Attribution with David Ho, University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa and Friederike Otto, Imperial College London & the World Weather Attribution Initiative
Episode 5: An Early PostMortem on COP30 with Katharine Hayhoe, Texas Tech University and Amy Westervelt, Drilled Media