Apocalyptic Optimist Episode 2: Why Solidarity Is So Hard — and How We Build It Anyway
February 24, 2026

In Episode 2 of the Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast, Dana talks with Dr. Rashawn Ray about the realities of building solidarity in a deeply divided moment. From his work with communities-of-color and police departments to learning from the Black Lives Matter movement, Dr. Ray breaks down what works, what doesn’t, and how people can show up as more effective racial justice advocates right now.
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